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#151 Re: General health matters.

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2020 11:42 am
by shane
One of the salient conclusions that Tim Spector comes to from pulling together the results of innumerable trials and studies around the world is that overall there is no conclusive evidence that any vegetable or animal fats or oils are particularly harmful, and many are beneficial. This makes sense when you think that our bodies have evolved over a couple of million years to process and utilise them as a part of our natural diet. What’s really dangerous are the trans-fats that are created when vegetable oils are processed into harder products like margarine. Since these are new and unnatural substances our bodies cannot process them properly, and it is these that are largely responsible for the problems of obesity, heart disease and so on.

The advice that results is not to avoid particular food groups, which is often harmful, but to avoid highly processed food containing unnatural ingredients.

Don’t buy ready meals, cook your own from decent quality ingredients. That way you’re only eating stuff that your body is designed to process and you won’t go far wrong.

#152 Re: General health matters.

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2020 11:54 am
by pre65
My weight is hovering around the 80Kg level, and checking my BMI it's at the high end of healthy.(24.6)

I'd like to lose a bit more ideally, but I'm not going to fret about it.

Today the word is "prebiotic", and I'm looking at foods that have the ability to "feed" the good bacteria in the gut.

The problem with having an open mind is knowing when to stop "utter crap/bullshit" flooding in. :lol:

#153 Re: General health matters.

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2020 12:08 pm
by Nick
That way you’re only eating stuff that your body is designed to process and you won’t go far wrong.
No "designing" going on, and for most of humans existence the average life span was about 25, so we are in uncharted territory.

#154 Re: General health matters.

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2020 12:09 pm
by Nick
The problem with having an open mind is knowing when to stop "utter crap/bullshit" flooding in.
Its easy, if its a simple solution to a complex problem, its likely to be bullshit.

#155 Re: General health matters.

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2020 12:16 pm
by Nick

#156 Re: General health matters.

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2020 12:26 pm
by andrew Ivimey
Love it!!

#157 Re: General health matters.

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2020 12:44 pm
by ed
andrew Ivimey wrote: Mon Nov 30, 2020 12:26 pm Love it!!
me to(o)!

#158 Re: General health matters.

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2020 12:45 pm
by pre65
andrew Ivimey wrote: Mon Nov 30, 2020 12:26 pm Love it!!
Me too. :lol:

My dear old Mum was only saying the other day how that so called "good advice" about what we eat has changed so much during her lifetime. Some things come and go, then come back again, very confusing.

#159 Re: General health matters.

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2020 12:58 pm
by vinylnvalves
Depending on what’s bad for you... lard looks not too bad from the BBC data. My grandma cooked chips in lard/dripping they were wonderful, she used it instead of butter too :? She lived to 95 - falling off a step ladder finished her off. But she only ever ate small portions and never snacked, except for boiled sweets. She never did processed food either. There has to be happy balance, between modern living and war time cooking.
I working from home is bad for my health. I snack now, when in the office - what I eat is rationed, by what I take.

#160 Re: General health matters.

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:24 pm
by Dave the bass
^^^^ I read that as your 95 year old Grandmother cooked chips in lard standing at the top of a step ladder.

I'm not too good at speed reading.

#161 Re: General health matters.

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:27 pm
by Nick
working from home is bad for my health. I snack now, when in the office - what I eat is rationed, by what I take.
Great example, I know what you mean of course, but one of Phils book writer would take that, and make money from a book that shows how working from home is bad for your health. When in reality it may or may not be snacking is or isn’t bad for you. And of course working from home may or may not have or have not other benefits or costs that swamps or outweighs the harm/benefit of snacking.

#162 Re: General health matters.

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:39 pm
by vinylnvalves
Yes working from home has has its benefits health benefits too, I haven’t had a day off sick this year. In the last couple of years I have had at least 2 chest infections a year, resulting in time off to recover. For mental well-being I am going the same hours as going to work. 6:30am to 5:00pm Although I take a few more breaks, wanted to maintain the routine for if we ever go back, as I know how hard it is to get back into the swing of “normal life”.
I won’t miss hours wasted transferring large amount of data over the internet, or zoom/ teams meetings which freeze randomly.

#163 Re: General health matters.

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2020 6:53 pm
by Mike H
Dave the bass wrote: Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:24 pm ^^^^ I read that as your 95 year old Grandmother cooked chips in lard standing at the top of a step ladder.
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#164 Re: General health matters.

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2020 8:00 pm
by IslandPink
vinylnvalves wrote: Mon Nov 30, 2020 12:58 pm Depending on what’s bad for you... lard looks not too bad from the BBC data. My grandma cooked chips in lard/dripping they were wonderful, she used it instead of butter too :? She lived to 95 ..
Hey - can you guess what nutrient lard has - that very few other foods have .. ? :)

#165 Re: General health matters.

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2020 9:31 pm
by vinylnvalves
She also used to have tripe at least once a week.. which is high in other essential vitamins. I didn’t realise that lard has almost the highest nature source density of vitamin D. Would need to have a 100grams of it per day .. can feel a layer of fat on my tongue just thinking about it.... almost enough to make me turn vegetarian