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#1 Sars-Cov-2 stuff

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 6:06 pm
by andrew Ivimey
So, more people are being tested and more people are getting Covid - there must be a relationship.

But how many people die of Covid, not just a co-morbidity?How many people would die anyway?

If we all got it how many need hospitals, how many would die??

If we all ( most of us except Phil the Frogg) got it we'd all be clear of it for at least three or four months....?

#2 Re: Zero emission road vehicles.

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 6:12 pm
by Nick
got it we'd all be clear of it for at least three or four months
Or for much much longer...

#3 Re: Zero emission road vehicles.

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 6:21 pm
by andrew Ivimey
I was being conservative.... ooops, that's a first. Sniggers

#4 Re: Zero emission road vehicles.

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 6:22 pm
by jack
andrew Ivimey wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 6:21 pm I was being conservative.... ooops, that's a first. Sniggers
Oh. Which Labour party do you support then? Sniggers

#5 Re: Zero emission road vehicles.

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 6:28 pm
by andrew Ivimey
The Peoples Popular Front of Judea, I mean 'what have the Romans ever done for us?'

#6 Re: Zero emission road vehicles.

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 6:30 pm
by jack
andrew Ivimey wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 6:28 pm The Peoples Popular Front of Judea, I mean 'what have the Romans ever done for us?'
SPLITTERS! (etc. etc. etc.)

#7 Re: Zero emission road vehicles.

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 6:38 pm
by andrew Ivimey
No knight lives in yonder castle ..... oh my.

#8 Re: Zero emission road vehicles.

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 8:16 pm
by IslandPink
andrew Ivimey wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 6:06 pm 1. So, more people are being tested and more people are getting Covid - there must be a relationship.

2. But how many people die of Covid, not just a co-morbidity?How many people would die anyway?

3. If we all got it how many need hospitals, how many would die??

4. If we all ( most of us except Phil the Frogg) got it we'd all be clear of it for at least three or four months....?
Well, this is what I understand , I'm just going by all the stats I've seen on John Campell's video diaries on Youtube recently , he seems well informed especially via stuff from O.N.S. etc so :

1. Yes :) .... and ? I think we only caught (tested) less than 1 in 10 infections in March/April, might be more like in in 5 or less now. The ONS does random samples of a few hundred regularly nowadays to get a better idea of real infection rate

2. Current best estimate for the UK seems to be that 0.5% of people who get infected, will die (the IFR). That's for the whole population. The percentages are a lot higher within higher age groups though. Might be 1 in 5 within the 70+ men age group , from memory.

3. I think the percentage of people infected needing hospital treatment is about 2.5%, five times the number who die ?

4. If we all get it suddenly then the IFR goes up to nearly 2.5% , since most of the people who would need some sort of hospital treatment also die.

Only good point is that the immunity is probably better than the scare stories we keep hearing - in that the T-cell immunity last longer and gives you less chance of getting seriously ill again.

#9 Re: Zero emission road vehicles.

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 8:40 pm
by Greg
IslandPink wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 8:16 pm Only good point is that the immunity is probably better than the scare stories we keep hearing - in that the T-cell immunity last longer and gives you less chance of getting seriously ill again.
Anecdotal experience from one person who became infected a second time is that the second infection was far worse.

#10 Re: Zero emission road vehicles.

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:24 pm
by Ray P
andrew Ivimey wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 6:06 pm How many people would die anyway?
All of us?

#11 Re: Zero emission road vehicles.

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:58 pm
by IslandPink
Greg wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 8:40 pm Anecdotal experience from one person who became infected a second time is that the second infection was far worse.
Oh dear. Probably early days yet on the full picture on this.

#12 Re: Zero emission road vehicles.

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:09 pm
by jack
V.i.t.a.m.i.n..D. (hopefully)

#13 Re: Zero emission road vehicles.

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:15 pm
by Greg
jack wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:09 pm V.i.t.a.m.i.n..D. (hopefully)
I hope so too.

#14 Re: Zero emission road vehicles.

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:27 pm
by IslandPink
Absolutely ..

#15 Re: Zero emission road vehicles.

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:58 pm
by Michael L
Even some people who don't have to go to hospital are failing to recover -the so called long-covid sufferers. Tens of thousands are reporting problems persisting after many months and the number is increasing week by week.