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#1 GM70 time ?

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Hi-having been reading a thread on the WD forum about trying GM70 valves in place of 845 in a Mr Liung amp i was wondering if the same could be tried in my 845 power stage ?

I appreciate the heaters are different but is the basic concept sound using the step up transformers that i have ?

The heater transformers i am using each have two centre tapped secondaries 5-0-5. How could (if i could) i get that to produce 20v ?
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I don't thihnk you could, maybe voltage doubler, but its going to have some huge current spikes. Other than that its just about a simple swap.
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Hi Philip,

GM70's are notoriously difficult to heat, you need a bigger TX than 5v-0v-5v or use a voltage doubler (see wikipedia) assuming the current can take it.

hope that helps,

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I did it with toroids, bridge rectifier caps and a resistor, that was easy but HOT! (Tractor days). I think the GM70 sounds better than 845 but imho.

P.S. I tried a voltage doubler because it was easier, didn't notice anything particularly wrong except it didn't sound right. I like AC but realise there are times when only DC will do.
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I was looking at the Nicholas Chua GM70 design and he uses an 18v transformer with bridge,0.5R resistor,two 22000uf caps and a 15mh choke.

Looks relatively simple (like me :oops: ),just need a couple of GM70 and bases to play with now.
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Perhaps also think about the 813? I like what it's doing in my system.
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Is that amp running them as triode or UL Ali ?
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Triode mode Nick.I'm really impressed with how it's sounding at the moment.Mo's been round a couple of times and he rather likes it too.Makes me wonder what a decent circuit and good trannies would sound like.I find the metal-anode 813's far better than the graphites.They're cheap too! :D

BTW,I followed your suggestion about the SCR cap,and it looks like they are willing to send a replacement,though understandably they wanted to see the duff one so I've sent it off.We shall see!

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Good news about the caps Ali, lets hope for the best.

Maybe I should invite myself and the 211 to Leeds some time :roll:
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Yes please! :D

We'll sort something out,and maybe get Mo round too.Anyone else want to come?
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All roads roam to Leeds, Ali.
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Haven't got loads of room,but any and all would be welcome.
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Ali
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Sure no problem.I'll sort out a date with Nick and let y'all know.
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