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#1 Boundaries commission review.

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It seems the boundaries commision are reviewing the boundaries for MPs seats/local council areas.

Put your postcode in the linked web site to see how you may be affected.

https://www.bcereviews.org.uk/

PS Where Jeans Mum lives the boundary will still go through the house and cuts the garage in half diagonally.
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In my case, we go from being on the northern edge of the old area to being almost dead centre of the new area.

Better for us, but I think the plan for our area is wrong in so many ways.

With Brexit as it is and after the Covid debacle do we really need to spend such sums on boundary reorganisation ?

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The rational behind it , is to make democracy fairer and the constituents numerically equivilent .

Accordingly I’d make it a number 1 spending priority
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Daniel Quinn wrote: Thu Feb 24, 2022 2:47 pm The rational behind it , is to make democracy fairer and the constituents numerically equivilent .

Accordingly I’d make it a number 1 spending priority
Well, that's a reasonable way of thinking about it.

But those in large area but sparsely populated constituencies would seem to be at a huge disadvantage.

The other problem is when people live close to a large urban conurbation (that they consider to be a part of) but the local council is situated a lot further away in an area they don't always have good public transport links to get to. That could be a problem in my new proposed constituency.

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pre65 wrote: Thu Feb 24, 2022 3:24 pm
Daniel Quinn wrote: Thu Feb 24, 2022 2:47 pm The rational behind it , is to make democracy fairer and the constituents numerically equivilent .

Accordingly I’d make it a number 1 spending priority
Well, that's a reasonable way of thinking about it.

But those in large area but sparsely populated constituencies would seem to be at a huge disadvantage.
Why? One person one vote, why should the land matter?

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Because representative democracy means you have a m.p and as far as possible each m.p represents the same population not land mass
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couldn't have put it better myself...

but we must remember that Phil lives in a rotten borough
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All I'll say is beware of gerrymandering...
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Ray P wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 6:49 am All I'll say is beware of gerrymandering...
:lol:

I've been chatting with a friend who is a local councillor and it is helping me to understand the enormity of the proposed boundary changes in my area, which is creating a new constituency with two focal points (towns) that will have to administer all the services we (the people) need.

This is going to be an enormous upheaval and I can only guess at what the costs will be in financial terms.

If this is just to make local MPs have exactly the same number of constituents then I'm not sure the gains justify the considerable upheaval.

And this is but one of many areas affected.
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Well Scarborough council will be brought into North Yorkshire County Council, in near future so we dont have to support more than one bunch of egocentric quangos.

Not long ago both councils were in court when Snoz hugged a tree in a tiny village called Irton, one councel sympathised with the developers and one with Snoz’s cause. Snoz is a local joiner.

So we rate payers payed for two councils to have a court battle.

Absolute nonsense.
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Paul Barker wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:40 pm Well Scarborough council will be brought into North Yorkshire County Council, in near future so we dont have to support more than one bunch of egocentric quangos.
A plus point for Paul then. :)
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There are of course allegations that the Tory’s are using the process to engage in jerrymandering .

I tend to think they’ll need more than a few suspect boundary changes to win next time .
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I refer you to an analysis I did in 2019 after the election that shows how stupid the current system is, e.g. the SNP and the Conservatives have a huge number of seats compared with their voters, i.e. their seats are cheap.

https://www.audio-talk.co.uk/phpBB3/vie ... el#p170103
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Because the population, for mostly economic reasons, are moving in to urban areas at the expense of rural settings. This gives the rural areas a disproportionate share of the vote in per head of population terms. And yet that doesn't show it head in government policy🤔
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not in the south east their not, it’s the other way around.
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